End Time Studies

Pre-Tribulation or Post-Tribulation Rapture?

One of the major controversies regarding Endtime Bible prophecy concerns when Jesus will return to ?rapture? all those who have received Him as their Savior. Will it be before or after the coming three-and-a-half-year period of worldwide trouble known as the ?Great Tribulation??

The term ?Rapture? is not found in English-language Bibles, but made its way into Christian terminology as a transliteration of rapiemur (from rapio, or raptio), the Latin word used by Saint Jerome in his Latin Vulgate translation of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, which describes how the saved from all ages, both dead and living, will be ?caught up? to meet Jesus in the air at His Second Coming.

Jesus placed His return after the Tribulation period. He couldn?t have made that point clearer!

Those who believe in a pre-Tribulation Rapture contend that Jesus will return in secret to whisk all born-again (saved) Christians out of this world and into Heaven. Depending on when they believe the Tribulation starts, this would be either at the beginning of the Antichrist?s seven-year rule or at its midpoint.

Central to this pre-Tribulation doctrine are several Bible passages that liken Jesus? Second Coming to a thief in the night, and also the supposition that the Second Coming and the Rapture are two different events.

Regarding His return, Jesus told His disciples: ?But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of Heaven, but My Father only. ? Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect? (Matthew 24:36, 40-44).

Here we have Jesus coming like a thief and people going up to Heaven in the Rapture at the same time. There is no indication that these are separate events.

In another ?thief? passage, the apostle Paul states: ?Concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, ?Peace and safety!? then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape? (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).

?Sudden destruction? and the labor pain analogy make it clear that Jesus? return will be a shocking, woeful experience for those not taken?certainly not the secret, stealthy Rapture of pre-Tribulation doctrine.

The point that both of these ?thief? passages are making is that Jesus? return will be sudden and unexpected, so we need to watch the signs of the times and keep our hearts right with Him so we?ll be ready.

And Paul, in the next verse, goes on to explain “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.” (1 Thessalonians 5:4)

A third ?thief? passage that is often applied to the Rapture is, in context, a specific warning to Christians in the city of Sardis, in Western Asia Minor (modern Turkey) who lived in the apostle John?s day. Jesus says, ?Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you? (Revelation 3:3).

There is a lesson in this passage for us too, of course, and it is the same one that the previously quoted ?thief? passages make: We need to keep our hearts right with Jesus so we?ll be ready to face Him when we die or are caught up with Him in the Rapture.

A fourth ?thief? passage that is sometimes added to the mix isn?t referring to the Rapture at all, but rather the destruction and re-creation of Earth?s surface and its atmospheric heavens about 1,000 years later, at the end of the Millennium: ?But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up? (2 Peter 3:10).

Now let?s look at some of the passages that support the post-Tribulation Rapture theory.

Just prior to His ?thief? analogy, Jesus told His disciples: ?Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other? (Matthew 24:29-31).

Jesus placed His return after the Tribulation period?then His angels will gather His elect, all those who have received Him as their Savior, in the Rapture. He couldn?t have made that point clearer!

In addition, the apostle Paul explains that the Antichrist will already be in power and ?sitting in the temple of God? when the Rapture happens, and we know from other passages that this happens after the Antichrist breaks the ?holy covenant,? which triggers the Great Tribulation: ?Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day [Jesus? return] will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin [the Antichrist] is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God? (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

Paul also states that it will happen when the last trumpet sounds?the same trumpet Jesus referred to in Matthew 24:31: ?The Lord Himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we [saved] who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air? (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17). ?Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed?in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed? (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).

And finally, it is clear from the prophecies in the books of Daniel (c. 538 bc) and Revelation (c. 90 ad) that the saints?all those who have been born again?will be around in the Tribulation, because the Antichrist will war against them. In fact, several passages are even very specific about the length of this period.

?I was watching; and the [Antichrist] was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, until the Ancient of Days [God] came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom. ? He [the Antichrist] shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time [three and a half years]? (Daniel 7:21-22, 25).

Yes, the Great Tribulation is going to be a trying time, but God will turn it to our good and help us come through it victoriously. Concerning that time, Daniel writes: ?The people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. And those of the people who understand shall instruct many? (Daniel 11:32-33).

The Great Tribulation will also be a time when many people will turn to the Lord, as those who know their God and understand what?s happening will manifest great powers and win to God?s eternal kingdom many of those who are disaffected with the Antichrist and his regime. The Tribulation trumpets will signal judgments on the wicked?not the just, who will be under God?s seal of protection during this time.

?These [the great multitude standing before the throne of God and Jesus] are the ones who come out of the Great Tribulation? (Revelation 7:14). In other words, they were there during it. God will deliver His own out of trouble, not from it!

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  1. [Hi Scott: Found the following tidbit on the surprising worldwide web. Any reaction?]


    Many evangelicals believe that Christ will “rapture” them to heaven years before the second coming and (most importantly) well BEFORE Antichrist and his “tribulation.” But Acts 2:34, 35 reveal that Jesus is at the Father’s right hand in heaven until He leaves to destroy His earthly foes at the second coming. And Acts 3:21 says that Jesus ?must? stay in heaven with the Father “until the times of restitution of all things? which includes, says Scofield, ?the restoration of the theocracy under David?s Son? which obviously can?t begin before or during Antichrist?s reign. (“The Rapture Question,” by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn’t dare to even list, in its scripture index, the above verses! They were also too hot for John Darby – the so-called “father of dispensationalism” – to list in the scripture index in his “Letters”!)
    Paul explains the ?times and the seasons? (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the ?day of the Lord? (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN ?sudden destruction? (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The “rest” for “all them that believe” is also tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who’d be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality ?rapture? (I Cor. 15:52) to the end of trib ?death? (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which Scofield views as Israel’s posttrib resurrection!) It’s amazing that the Olivet Discourse contains the “great commission” for the church but not even a hint of a pretrib rapture for the church!
    Many don’t know that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4?s ?catching up? as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this “rapture” was stretched forward and turned into an idolized separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which evangelical scholars overwhelmingly rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the ?day of the Lord? (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward ?rapture.? Many leading evangelical scholars still weren?t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the ?falling away? of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the ?rapture? in 2:3 must happen before the ?rapture? [“gathering”] in 2:1 can happen ? the height of desperation!). Google “Walvoord Melts Ice” for more on this.
    Other Google articles on the 183-year-old pretrib rapture view include ?X-Raying Margaret,? “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “The Unoriginal John Darby,” “Catholics Did NOT Invent the Rapture,” “The Real Manuel Lacunza,” ?Thomas Ice (Bloopers),? ?Wily Jeffrey,? ?The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),? ?America?s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,? ?Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,? ?Scholars Weigh My Research,? ?Pretrib Hypocrisy,? “Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” ?Deceiving and Being Deceived,? “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Famous Rapture Watchers,” and “Morgan Edwards’ Rapture View” ? most by the author of the bestselling book ?The Rapture Plot? (the most accurate and documented book on pretrib rapture history which is obtainable by calling 800.643.4645).

  2. Explain how “the [Antichrist] will making war against the saints, and prevailing against them” if “will be under God?s seal of protection during this time”

    Seems a bit contradictory to me.

    I’ll stick with Revelation 3:10:

    Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.


    1. God’s seal will protect His children from the things coming upon the world when God’s trumpets sound.

      “And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.” Rev. 9:3-4

      1. There will be plenty of people who turn to Christ, during the tribulation. Most will probably come to their senses after seeing millions vanish in the Rapture.

  3. Good Job. I like your research and your exposition of the verses. The “thief” verses are good insight. All of it was well done. Good job.

  4. Stamping Out Harold Camping

    Is Second Coming date-setter Harold Camping worthy of death? He already has a zero batting average after his September 1994 prediction fizzle and, according to the Bible, is a false prophet.
    Nevertheless that California shaman, who should be ashamed, claims he’s found out that Christ’s return will be on May 21, 2011 even though Matt. 24:36 says that no one knows the “day” or “hour” of it!
    A Google article (“Obama Fulfilling the Bible”) points out that “Deut. 18:20-22 in the Old Testament requires the death penalty for false prophets.”
    The same article reveals that “Christians are commanded to ask God to send severe judgment on persons who commit and support the worst forms of evil (see I Cor. 5 and note ‘taken away’).”
    Theologically radioactive Harold Camping and his ga-ga groupies (with their billboards featuring “May 21, 2011”) should worry about being “stamped out” if many persons decide to follow the I Cor. 5 command.
    The above article concludes: “False prophets in the OT were stoned to death. Today they are just stoned!”
    PS – For many years Camping was not known as a pretrib rapture teacher. But now, for $ome my$teriou$ rea$on, he seeks support from those who believe in and teach an imminent, pretrib rapture which supposedly will occur SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE the traditional SECOND COMING to earth! For a behind-the-scenes, documented look at the 181-year-old pretrib rapture belief (which was never a part of any official theology or organized church before 1830!), Google “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Pretrib Rapture Diehards” and “Pretrib Rapture – Hidden Facts.”

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